Perhaps his seeking to evangelize us will ensnare him into Orthodoxy. I personally would lose patience with him, but I know several people who can sit down and have a fruitful discussion with him.
Furthermore, EOs are always looking for terminological consistency. OOs are not interested in terminological consistency. Just because we say Christ is "one nature" does not mean we use the same terminology in the same way when it comes to the Tri…
"Explain yourself please."
At least you said please :P
Yes, I know about that part. The question then one can next ask is this: how does Gregory Palamas (and subsequently she) define "ousia"? How did the Church fathers define "ousia"?
Perha…
Now there is talk that HH Pope Shenouda changed his views towards the end of his life, but until then, we still have many who use his older writings to teach something that does not seem to be consonant with the Church fathers.
Who is claiming th…
If HH Pope Shenouda said what Palamas said, great! But my impression he said that these energies or gifts were created.
Furthermore, Palamite theology is not necessarily what Alexandrian theology holds. It may be loosely interpreted as such, but i…
Again, I usually don't like using that language "energy of the essence" because that's a misuse of the theology. It is a very complicated system, and its simplification leads to misuse and misunderstanding. It is a description of our limitations i…
Hi minasoliman did you mean these articles?
http://anorthodoxpriest.blogspot.com/2014/10/can-oriental-orthodox-receive-eastern.html
http://anorthodoxpriest.blogspot.com/2014/04/a-conversation-about-unity-with-eastern.html
http://anorthodoxpriest.…
EOs have a tradition of liking to "break things down" to a science....They don't necessarily contradict our theology, but we seem to just explain that there is a mystery without trying to go deeply into distinctions.
Hi minasoliman I like how you m…
minasoliman, watch the video I posted....it contradicts what you are saying
I watched the video; now read the article I sent you. There is no contradiction. Do you think she is going to give you a lecture about Palamite theology, or only a taste so …
It seems that the larger the church, the more institutionalized and organized its teachings become. Hence why RC seem more scientific than EO who seem more scientific than us OO's. I suppose Assyrian Church of the East is even less nuanced.
On the c…
If you read this:
http://monachos.net/content/patristics/specific-fathers/62-gregory-palamas-knowledge-prayer-and-vision
You realize Palamas was a lot more complicated than the cliche of "energy/essence" we discuss. Energies are not "parts of God",…
There were protests on Jan 25 as usual. Police had to spend all their energy on the protestors, so when the police is not looking, Islamists go and kill some wandering Copts.
Thank you mrpete; that deserves +100000000. I just want to share some old links where we discussed this, in some ways ad nauseum:
http://tasbeha.org/community/discussion/14739/oopnevma-vs-pipnevma/p1 (oopnevma-vs-pipnevma)
http://tasbeha.org/commun…
I have heard about Fr. Bishoy's PhD. Needless to say, it seemed he struggled to present a proper thesis. If by PhD, it gives him the right to use Protestant songs in his parish, then he is not a reliable Orthodox witness, but a parrot of misrepresen…
I have a pdf book somewhere written in 2007 I believe by an anonymous Coptic priest that would have been presented to HH at the time proving that deification is a patristic belief, ranging from St. Dionysius the Great, St. Athanasius, St. Cyril, the…
To deny deification is to deny that God has power to save or that God has power to unite Himself to us. Deification is not the eating of divinity as if the divine nature is material. That is a misrepresentation of HH Pope Shenouda that he used ag…
SMSV?
I'm sorry, but I do not consider that priest a source of Coptic Orthodoxy
ForeverYours,
Theosis, or deification, or divinization, or theopoeisis are all the same thing, and are all the cornerstone of Orthodox soteriology. It is not just an …
I think in some way, VII does try to open up a channel with the ancient churches, like the Orthodox Church, as in some way part of the Church, but not perfectly so. If you know something about me in these forums, I take ecclesiology very seriously,…
To best put it, "we know where the Church is, we don't know where it isn't." If we know where the Church is, we are convinced of its truth, we don't agree with intermarriages with other churches or faiths that disagree with the truth.
With the Roma…
Well, that is essentially the point of the discussion. For Rome, it does matter that you are "of Cephas". It would seem to me two people who are in love see no essential reason for the Churches to be divided, given what they believe. So the questio…
I have no qualms with the fact that in my interactions with many Christians, I feel a lot closer to a Catholic than to a Protestant. At the same time, even you mentioned Protestants are different due to a broken Apostolic link (and open defiance re…
That sounds even worse! Because if form matters, not Apostolic succession or Petrine primacy, what is the point of the divisions they make over the Petrine Primacy? Why can't we unite without claiming which city should rule the Church?
St. Peter d…
Well overall Apostolic validity is Petrine authority given to all Apostles, bishops and presbyters, who received the keys. It's not limited to one person in Rome, nor should there be any dependency to him, despite the important historical role it p…
I would say that it is important to concentrate on Petrine primacy. By the fact that you belong to the Church of Rome, I could understand how you can be accepted to have valid sacraments for extreme circumstances. But for Churches which reject Pet…
I want to second Mina's suggestions and plead to you that this is an opportunity to investigate what the differences are and why the division matters between the two churches. If we were united, the situation would be much easier for you. But we a…