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[quote author=minatasgeel link=topic=13858.msg161094#msg161094 date=1352701592] For him to give the eskeem to other monks bishops and nuns he himself needs to have it...so thats one exception that was made for him [/quote] So does that mean that al…
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[quote author=TITL link=topic=13770.msg160544#msg160544 date=1350443393] Thank you. But how are we supposed to eat chocolate on October 31st with a fast? They should change it. [/quote]I couldn't resist commenting, but.... Collect the candy that …
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[quote author=Biboboy link=topic=9472.msg160006#msg160006 date=1347977043] Agape, Regardless of what people think Church Fathers say or what Jewish and Christian historians claimed about their interpretations of the sons of God marrying the daughte…
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[quote author=Remnkemi link=topic=9472.msg159989#msg159989 date=1347935756] Mina, Fr Seraphim's foot note is misleading. It implied all those fathers believed in the Sethite hypothesis. I looked at St Athanasius' quote. When time permits, I look at …
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[quote author=imikhail link=topic=9472.msg159987#msg159987 date=1347934310] Most of the quotes mentioned in this thread are just commentaries by various authors and not actual quotes. The rest of the quotes do not explicitly say that angels married…
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Stavro, I literally LOL'ed at the Shaq comment, but otherwise, I don't disagree with your post in general. Remnkemi, I found the Fr. Seraphim Rose quote that seems to want to support the Sethite view. Fr. Seraphim Rose here implied that the Ange…
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Here's the Philocalia: http://tertullian.org/fathers/origen_philocalia_02_text.htm In the end, it seems Origen would have defined Biblical infallibility as a complete allegorical message that reveals to us the mysteries of our spirituality in ligh…
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I'm too lazy to pull this out, but look for Origen's "Philocalia", which was believed to be a compilation by St. Gregory the Theologian and St. Basil the Great. In it Origen teaches his method of exegesis, where you'll find him comparing Biblical i…
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Sherene_Maria, The point is not to ignore those Church fathers. The point was to show that from the 1st to the 3rd centuries, and part of the 4th Century, there was a relatively unanimous belief that the Nephilim were offspring of a mix of angels …
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[quote author=imikhail link=topic=9472.msg159949#msg159949 date=1347830576] you are interpreting St. Irenaeus writings just to suit your point of view Dear Sordoeht Are you not doing the same? St. Irenaus never said that the angles married. He d…
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[quote author=Remnkemi link=topic=9472.msg159790#msg159790 date=1347469380] Mina, All I can say is WOW. My wife yelled at me for spending so much time looking for those patristic references. I can only imagine how long it took you. It's obvious you …
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Those who have allowed the idea that angels can copulate with humans. Part 2 St. Methodius (3rd to 4th Century) Photios of Constantinople in his Bibliotheca, 9th Century documents a summary From the Discourse of the Resurrection, Part III http:…
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Remnkemi, I also was compiling a list a while ago on those who either interpreted the passage as referring to sons of angels, or acknowledging that such a way can be interpreted if taken literally. I'll just copy and past and reorganize into this …
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[quote author=Remnkemi link=topic=10035.msg159731#msg159731 date=1347384385] [quote author=minasoliman link=topic=10035.msg159724#msg159724 date=1347377473] Dear Rem, I agree with you. That is why I'm basing my judgement on the non-modified versi…
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Whatever the case, whether angels had intercourse or not, this isn't a dogmatic or important enough issue for us that touches essential dogmas of our faith. What is clearly noticeable is that this was a dominant view for the first 3-4 centuries of …
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[quote author=Remnkemi link=topic=10035.msg159722#msg159722 date=1347373255] [quote author=minasoliman link=topic=10035.msg159711#msg159711 date=1347340883] The Greek hymn itself, as has been told by some scholars around here, has linguistic and emb…
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The Greek hymn itself, as has been told by some scholars around here, has linguistic and embarrassing errors. Can you imagine that the "who took our humility" referred to the Father? No matter how enjoyable the musicality of this hymn is, this is …
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[quote author=ReturnOrthodoxy link=topic=13602.msg159679#msg159679 date=1347227102] [quote author=Stavro link=topic=13602.msg159678#msg159678 date=1347226240] [quote author=markmarcos link=topic=13602.msg159669#msg159669 date=1347209446] [quote auth…
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It became rare when the Church scrambled to survival mode under Islamic occupation at times, and traditions have been lost. Abouna Abraham of Holmdel taught that no one lower than a full deacon should be allowed in the altar, but because of the rar…
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[quote author=imikhail link=topic=13611.msg159109#msg159109 date=1345420136] [quote author=ReturnOrthodoxy link=topic=13611.msg159107#msg159107 date=1345419784] I do not believe intimate mediation has to do with it. I do. As the people needed media…
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The "truth" is never so clear. You always will get two sides to historical events. For you, as you say, Dioscorus is a murderer and a criminal, whereas for us he is a saint and a confessor. Likewise, we also view Leo as a murderer, criminal, and N…
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[quote author=The least of all link=topic=13611.msg159093#msg159093 date=1345298867] Hmm, i just want to chime in for my edification and perhaps to be a nuisance with a few questions :P. What would you guys say is the extent to which the judicial a…
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[quote author=imikhail link=topic=13535.msg158926#msg158926 date=1345003721] [quote author=minasoliman link=topic=13535.msg158922#msg158922 date=1344999032] I remember reading an article a while ago about the Trinity where it mentions that one possi…
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I've listened to how Catholics interpret this word "guilt." For just as the word sin can mean something different than just an impious action one makes, as in the phrase "Original Sin," to them the word "guilt" does not also necessarily imply culpa…
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I remember reading an article a while ago about the Trinity where it mentions that one possible Old Testament reference to the Trinity can be the three men who visited Abraham. The article claimed that although our tradition mainly sees this as the…
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[quote author=imikhail link=topic=13535.msg158802#msg158802 date=1344831359] If you make distinct the Vision of Isaiah and the Chanting of the Cherubim, and say that the hymn is based on the Vision, then this begs the question, where did words of t…
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I wanted to add input into this very very interesting discussion. Before the fast of the Theotokos is over, I recommend anybody here to go buy the SVS translation of St. Jacob of Serug's homilies "On the Mother of God" (what's more amazing, an OO C…
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On further update, before the translation was released, Fr. Athanasius Iskander released his refutations of this latest paper written by the Metropolitan: http://canon15.nicaea.ca/index.php/discussion-with-h-e-anba-bishoy/53-fr-athanasius-refutatio…
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[quote author=imikhail link=topic=13535.msg158795#msg158795 date=1344821897] Dear Mina Soliman, First let me thank you for addressing me by "dear". It is refreshing after a heated discussion. I am guilty of not using it more often. Second, forgiv…
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[quote author=RamezM link=topic=13535.msg158774#msg158774 date=1344668210] Minasoliman, Thank you very much for the passage you provided. I learned something I did not know at all before, and this passage helps me a great deal in my original argum…