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Ok, it just seems that not all browsers are able to work smoothly with the new look forum.. certainly not Google chrome for mobile or opera for mobileOujai
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dear mayroun123, please send me straight on my email address or pm me your email address.. oujai
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Dear all, I'm not that well learned. I'll definitely ask again and try to understand more Oujai
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Dear minasoliman, No answer to your question, but definitely food for thought. However, angels won't bow down to us as bearers of the Holy Spirit, would they? Also Christ doesn't dwell in our hearts as st. Paul says, or does He? I hope you got my po…
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Thank you all for your messages. I may be confused in usage of the term hypostasis, sorry but I use it to refer to the Trinitarian person. Please note I am not as learned as some of you here. I asked priests of who dwells within us, and interesting…
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Dear Amoussa01 and all, I'm so sorry for my mistake. I'll edit my previous post, it's just tricky to use the mobile and not make such spelling mistakes.. Yes I meant hypostasis. You're right in saying that it's possible, but neither does the Spirit …
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Dear Amoussa01, Hypostasis doesn't only refer to physical bodily form, but to the Person. We don't contain, or indeed aren't capable of containing the Holy Spirit. During communion we partake as you said. What does that mean? Partake means part-tak…
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Dear minasoliman and Amoussa01, Sorry for using the term, probably mistakenly, as I didn't think so deeply as both of you. BUT (in capital letters) I hope neither of you is suggesting that the Holy Spirit in His hypostatic form dwells in us. THAT IS…
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My belief is owbnawmian. We do not take the Holy Spirit in His hydrostatic form. We receive gifts from Him.. Oujai
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Dear Mgabby1234, do you mean the bishop refers to himself as such? Oujai
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Dear aem581, Paula is a feminine name in all languages, the bishop's name is Bola. Oujai
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Dear Mina, I referred to the structure pointing to long tune, mohayer, short tune. Such a structure is not a characteristic of Adam tunes Oujai
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Dear Mina, What I meant was Adam hymns don't follow the same arrangement as watos ones, they don't have the same structure as such. As for supplication verses in the lobshes I said that it seems to me, so that explains I have no references or proof…
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Dear Mina, You mean marenwonh, right? I don't know the exact answer but it seems to me that the supplication verses towards the end aren't genuine in annual seasonal tune! I thought they were only borrowed in terms of the tune from Kiahk. Adam tune…
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Completely agreed mzaki, but I probably wasn't clear. What I meant is that there's no psalmody book that has this written as instructions, not even the so-called Kiahk psalmody.. Oujai
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Very well said RamezM. I do feel that some cantors use their status to give them a carte blanche to canonizing certain teachings that not everybody agrees to. Another point is as you rightly say some practices varied between different parts of Egypt…
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I'm not sure these are valid arguments.. while I do love everything Coptic and repeating Coptic hymns so that they are pretty easily learnt I dislike the argument of 'it's a nice hymn why don't we say it throughout the year?' That doesn't sit right …
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Dear mzaki, I thought aradantondi in the long tune is reserved for Kiahk and the fasting days! Oujai
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Yes Mina, shami tune as remenkimi or someone else maybe explained comes from either Lebanese or Syrian origins. Oujai
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Dear Mina, baketronos is a Lebanese/Syrian tune not pharaonic. Childoforthodoxy and drewhalim make a good point though, where to draw the line, and what date could we say we're not creating ANYMORE? For me the principle is this: what I inherit from…
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I personally am against this idea. I hope we revive the uncared for hymns and there are many rather than doing such. There are already a few examples where cantors sing some hymns differently because of inconsistencies in teaching so please no other…
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Oops my mistake. Every word agreed Mina. Thanks for correcting me Oujai
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Watos
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That's right, Mashenak is watos. I'm not one for making up tunes. If a tune is lost, it's lost. But to revive it willy nilly? I don't know. I disagree drewhalim, there are no exceptions. It's basic, easy, and straightforward. The structure of the po…
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Happy feast of the Cross to you too mabsoota. Oujai
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[quote author=Sem Sem link=topic=14630.msg166082#msg166082 date=1380194971] An Update: I've asked Deacon Albier Gamal about our discussion. 1-He declared that the two Adam Doxologies "Evol hiten eb esnof" & "Amoini tirou nipistos" are said like…
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Thanks dear rebecca.ann; looks like you're really a very mature person knowing what exactly you want and how to achieve it. God bless you and continue with you what you started, and with your fiance too.. Oujai
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Thanks Mina, I hope I learn from you Oujai
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Dear Faithful Servant 1, Why would you really think that somebody may have had the time to chant that hymn in its entirety? At a time when people plead with the authorities to shorten the time the Liturgy takes, I don't think you will ever find that…
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Not sure if that is too late to reply now dear rebecca.ann, so if you have already found your answer, ignore me. I have been having unfortunate internet problems; so I am sorry (besides I am not sure if what I'll say is valid enough.. hehe). So all…