Shouldn't happen in church, but some argue that it's ok for people to be in their crude nature whilst in church. There should be some respect though in my opinion...
Oujai
Dear Servos,
I can see you already had a fruitful discussion with both mnc_hnn and JG. I will not answer points that they already did, because they gave good answers, but as someone who lived almost 28 years of my life in Egypt, I can add a couple o…
BTW forgot to say my next to last post was directed a great deal at what ReturnOrthodoxy said too
oujai
EDIT: correction to the name of the previous poster
Dear mabsoota,
of course you know how much I respect you.. I seriously wasn't talking about you or that you were advocating anything.. I'm just very disappointed and fuming from church authorities all over the world now who discourage use of coptic.…
With all due respect JG.. no they aren't.. some of them are full of grammatical mistakes, some are boring, and some are invented.. and why should we be keen on keeping the Coptic identity at all? Are we like other churches which value their own trea…
Well we of course cannot burden people, especially converts with language they don't understand, or nobody understands, or hymns that even natives got tired and rid of.. just follow mabsoota's church orders and returnorthodoxy.. certainly now people…
Why do you keep making maps for all those long hymns? No one here cares anymore.. relieve yourself of added efforts that go in vain.. do you think anybody is interested?
oujai
My understanding is that there are enough doxologies annual, and also occasional in the psalmody book.. why couldn't we use such instead of melodies and carols?
oujai
Good point of course.. I wish I'd known the answer.. there must have been alternatives and rules that are now long forgotten because no one cares anymore.. just get people involved and don't bother too much with coptic language or hymns.. "rites wer…
Why is it not the reverse? Why when we have vespers we don't spend time singing hymns of the main Liturgy? We do that in the vespers of Palm Sunday, don't we? Why shouldn't it be a regular habit of singing "agioc o :eoc" before the Gospel reading?
I…
Food doesn't have anything to do with rites. Although we're fasting first-degree in Lent, we celebrate a major Lordly feast in Palm Sunday. Kiahk hymns were made for Kiahk, not the fast.. advent term is deceiving because it may actually refer to Chr…
Tawadros is not an Arabic pronunciation.. David is a "translateable" name but Tawadros is not.. the pronunciation of the latter is Coptic and transcribed into Arabic, as is the case with Shenouda, Kirollos, Youssab (translated into Youssef in Arabic…
I can see exactly where you're coming from.. sorry to say that that was brought about through flawed teaching of the Coptic language.. why was Shenouda pronounced like so in both English and Arabic until recently with the more forceful move of moder…
Dear Cyril97,
why are you confused? You write Tawadros in English, and in coptic it's the same spelling as the Greek Theodoros.. the pronunciation is different between Coptic and Greek, not the spelling
oujai
Well remenkimi I don't think you understood my post at all.. I did mean usage of Mary and Christ in English and their translations in Arabic and other languages.. this shouldn't be the case with coptic names within the coptic church.. not talking ab…
Christian is used in German as the formula 1 driver Christian Klein
I didn't write Louis, but Lois, a British female name
as for translations I answered in the other related thread.. I'm sorry, typing through mobile is hard work for me
oujai
Listing in Wikipedia is something and church usage is something else.. popes' names shouldn't be translated as opposed to st. Mary and Christ for obvious reasons.. they are known by such names across ALL worldly cultures, but coptic saints aren't ne…
I hope people aren't taking this too far and causing some kind of a discord because of each person's opinion.. names are not translated FULL STOP.. my name is always Fady, can't be redeemer in English and sodair in coptic.. Peter cannot be Botros in…
Dear all,
remenkimi is being addressed by others as remenkimi although it should properly be remenkami
metouro is being addressed by others as metouro although it should properly be madowro.
in the case of Tawadros this is the right pronunciation, w…
Dear remenkimi,
these were just made up expressions I came out with
dear Amoussa01,
One of the reasons I was disappointed is because of you. I highly respect you as a person and never wanted to hear such a comment from you. This church is not called…