Im leaving the CoC..
Thank GOD my Coptic Church here is NOTHING like the Church in the UK. The priests and deacons are turning a blind eye as to what is going on in the name of tolerance. Its extremely irresponsible.
This is not about whether these denominations have the correct faith or dogmas or not.
THIS IS ABOUT OUR ORTHODOX IDENTITY.
WE HAVE A WAY OF PRAYER
WE HAVE A WAY OF SINGING/Chanting
ITS WHO WE ARE.
People are returning to orthodoxy for the pu…
[quote author=Stavro link=topic=10566.msg128586#msg128586 date=1296163763]
Overturning Mubarak's regime is disastrous for the Copts. The only power who are organized and who practically own every aspect of Egyptian life are the Islamic Brotherhood. …
Can someone explain this to me: (preferably anyone muslim).
The current government in Egypt are all muslim, and they've ruined the country
That of Tunisia were all muslim and they've ruined their country.
Morocco and Yemen have all muslim governme…
[quote author=epiphania link=topic=10566.msg128577#msg128577 date=1296162150]
I don't know about Egypt's current government issues. since they still try to pretend mubarak is the greatest thing ever, but we do know something big is going to happen s…
[quote author=Stavro link=topic=10538.msg128574#msg128574 date=1296161452]
Zoxsasi,
I have NEVER discussed this issue with user STAVRO - EVER. I've never discussed with him Bishop Boulous. NEVER.
I don't think this user even knows me.
You are right…
I think we have a problem still Fr. Peter.
Would you agree that playing the guitar in a prayer meeting is wrong? Its not Orthodox.
Singing hymns that the Church didnt select herself and is used in the protestant Church - is this right or wrong?
Guys,
If I was ignorant, and I stand corrected about this issue.. what about others?
I have some humility left in me to even admit I had an erroneous understanding of Orthodoxy. But - there are a lot of people out there that have yet to learn wha…
Easy Anba Bola,
If anyone here is NOT yet convinced, let me quote the Pope.
The Church council was looking at ex-communicating a Coptic Priest who became popular by spreading Charismatic spirituality IN the Orthodox Church.
The Pope was seated d…
[quote author=Father Peter link=topic=10538.msg128560#msg128560 date=1296155016]
I agree with Zoxasi on this.
i. There are aspects of culture which can be used in the service of the Orthodox Tradition.
ii. There are aspects of culture which the Ch…
[quote author=GODlovesme link=topic=10538.msg128557#msg128557 date=1296153115]
[quote author=DavidI link=topic=10538.msg128551#msg128551 date=1296150777]
While I have agreed with just about everything you've said on this topic, I have to ask a few q…
[quote author=anba bola link=topic=10538.msg128550#msg128550 date=1296150755]
I'm not sure it dilutes our Orthodox spirituality, it has already been said that the Ethiopian Orthodox also have dancing (of sorts). May I ask how it dilutes our Orthodox…
I can honestly say that through going to different Churches,I learnt a lot - about my own. I understood what was Orthodox and what was cultural when I went to the Orthodox Churches outside the CoC.
If you have lived all your life in the Coptic Chu…
[quote author=anba bola link=topic=10538.msg128547#msg128547 date=1296148886]
Zoxasi,
I think you misunderstood what was meant by HG Anba Boules being charismatic. I think Charismatic was meant as: possessing an extraordinary ability to attract; "a…
[quote author=ilovesaintmark link=topic=10538.msg128538#msg128538 date=1296142717]
When you go among the Russians, they want you to become Russian in order to become Orthodox.
I like the Armenians a lot. I am well-versed in Armenian chants and the…
Guys,
I didnt say Armenian in particular, but they are our sister Church.
I'm all for the Russian Orthdoox. I'm well impressed with their Friday meetings... and the Greek Orthodox Church's meetings... are just WOW.
They are mind blowing.
Quiet…
What are u talking about?
Our Church servants, bishops, priests, deacons are OK with this protestant influence. Why the heck would they care if we became Russian or Greek Orthodox for??? Let them change the CoC into a charismatic movement to appeas…
Im SERIOUSLY thinking of joining the Greek or the Armenian Orthodox Church over this.
The Russian Church is just BRILLIANT!
You know what they do in their friday meetings??
Guess what??
Go on guess....
OK.. I'll tell u
They read the Philoka…
[quote author=Stavro link=topic=10538.msg128361#msg128361 date=1296072675]
The translation of Orthodoxy according to the African culture. So, in Africa, the people pray whilst clapping hands, they use guitars and drums IN the Coptic Church. The Bish…
[quote author=GODlovesme link=topic=10538.msg128465#msg128465 date=1296097442]
Well, the youth who were dissatisfied with this behavior in CA have sent letters to the Bishop. I also plan to write a letter to him about it. There is of course the bo…
[quote author=abanoub2000 link=topic=10538.msg128326#msg128326 date=1296055111]
Great..... So now that I know that I am not overreacting and this is an actual problem in a lot of churches..... [glow=red,2,300]what do we do?[/glow]
the youth in my c…
[quote author=Ioannes link=topic=10538.msg128287#msg128287 date=1296025083]
Zoxasi, are you serious? Speaking in tongues? What the hell has this church come to? You know, all of us who are against protestantism should band together somehow, they mig…
Abanoub,
I felt exactly the same way as u.
I hate guitars in a Coptic church.
Our youth have really gone Protestant. They even speak on tongues.
As much as I love our priest, I think he is to blame.
He should not do that. He should not par…
[quote author=Amoussa01 link=topic=10536.msg128158#msg128158 date=1295996092]
since you read the book, explain it them yourself.][/quote]
Oh for goodness sake, these people are so stubborn.
Trust me on this, if there is a YouTube video, it will b…
[quote author=Amoussa01 link=topic=10536.msg128114#msg128114 date=1295989803]
Zoxasi,
If you wish to have a good understanding of our faith, then it is a must that you read this book! As Orthodox Christians, it is our duty to fully understand our f…
[quote author=GODlovesme link=topic=10536.msg128068#msg128068 date=1295980017]
Zoxsasi,
The book by St. Athanasius is very straight forward; while it is not written in bullet points, there are many examples and it is a short read. You spend a lot …
[quote author=TITL link=topic=10456.msg128060#msg128060 date=1295971703]
I'm pretty sure he's doing both.
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Do you think you could either add something useful TiTl or just not post ???
[quote author=TITL link=topic=10456.msg128056#msg128056 date=1295971504]
and I'm 110% sure that ILSM was not addressing his posts to you "personally".
[quote author=ilovesaintmark link=topic=10456.msg128050#msg128050 date=1295967188]
If it sounds …
[quote author=Truthsetsfree link=topic=10456.msg128053#msg128053 date=1295969498]
Well, I have clearly not misinterpreted what ILSM said, since he seems so fond of bashing my opinions regardless of what those opinions are, I doubt he even reads my p…