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how would this holiness of the bread in the basket be different from the holiness of the Lamb chosen to be sanctified during the Descent of the Holy Spirit?
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[quote author=Cyril97 link=topic=10109.msg123639#msg123639 date=1291668074] It is holy bread and is supposed to be burned according to what I have been taught. [/quote] also "Qorban" is not really holy bread....the word means oblation/sacrifice/gift…
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Baraka is DIFFERENT than the rest of the orban and it is different than the Lamb that goes into the Sanctuary. [quote author=Cyril97 link=topic=10109.msg123663#msg123663 date=1291672159] Is that an insult? I don't get it... It is Holy because it is…
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[quote author=ophadece link=topic=10098.msg123643#msg123643 date=1291669484] I disagree because that would mean that glorifications would change to joyful, kiahky, lenten, etc since they aren't the primary rites. Doesn't make sense to me. The only e…
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[quote author=ophadece link=topic=10103.msg123644#msg123644 date=1291669566] Yes it does. Any chance of sharing that ouseyou afshai? [/quote] it was a loong time ago...i am not even sure i know where it is.
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[quote author=Cyril97 link=topic=10109.msg123639#msg123639 date=1291668074] This is just my opinion but... I COMPLETLY disagree with anyone who dips orban in anything weather hard or soft. It is NOT a cookie that you can dip in milk... It is holy br…
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if it's just dry you can always dip it into something hot (like tea or coffee).
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[quote author=ophadece link=topic=10098.msg123627#msg123627 date=1291664286] NO YOU DON'T... why do we suppose we are compelled to change the tune of a service once it's sandwiched between two others or directly follows another. Please don't start m…
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[quote author=ophadece link=topic=10103.msg123629#msg123629 date=1291664440] You Mina keep saying hoses when you mean lobsh's... not my fault [/quote] hehehe.......the connection i made through the fact that w say ADAM psalies and madayeh on them st…
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[quote author=ophadece link=topic=10103.msg123624#msg123624 date=1291663738] Ok this is from the mobile so not concise. First of all canticles are not subject to Adam or Watos but everything else is.... clear?[/quote] but we are not talking about th…
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HEY!!!!!! We are not condemning anyone here.....sometimes we need to talk about these things to make sure that we don't fall into these sins.
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OH...DON'T BE SHOCKED....actually i think that specific person came here on the site a looong time ago and opened a homosexuality thread which got out of hand because of what he said.
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[quote author=ophadece link=topic=10103.msg123583#msg123583 date=1291641024] OK, as long as those hymns were dropped for one reason or another, it doesn't mean we shouldn't hold on to them. Because they were found by someone, and published, they sho…
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[quote author=ophadece link=topic=10098.msg123574#msg123574 date=1291623759] That's exactly my point. It's a separate set of rites with its own set of tunes and it doesn't change with the ceremonial, as does not the laqqan service, the general funer…
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[quote author=ophadece link=topic=10098.msg123539#msg123539 date=1291587815] I wasn't even talking about laqqan but I personally view it as an independent service in its own right that HAS TO be annual whatever the rites of the day. PRetty much like…
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[quote author=Ιωσήφ Γαβριήλ link=topic=10103.msg123537#msg123537 date=1291587090] A very edifying post Mina. I never once stepped back and realised how complicated the setup actually is. You have to be really enthusiastic to get into it properly, a …
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[quote author=ophadece link=topic=10103.msg123530#msg123530 date=1291581930] YOur post is very informative man thanks. NOt meaning to patronize or be cheeky but I'm asking for opinions here: that old teaching you alluded to, where is it mentioned an…
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[quote author=ophadece link=topic=10098.msg123531#msg123531 date=1291582313] And just to confuse things a little bit more cantor Wagdy and recently also cantor Ibrahim recorded vespers for the above feasts in annual tune (as far as I can remember)..…
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[quote author=Hos Erof link=topic=10098.msg123525#msg123525 date=1291580344] IT's interesting to note that the Lakaan of Covenent Thursday is done after matins, but then again, that day has unique rites when it comes to so many things. [/quote] well…
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[quote author=Meena_Ameen link=topic=10104.msg123516#msg123516 date=1291579459] Hey guys, does anyone have a link that tells you all the dates and times when you are suppose to sing a certain hymn or certain days for saints and which saints your sup…
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[quote author=josephgabriel link=topic=10098.msg123505#msg123505 date=1291578082] [quote author=minagir link=topic=10098.msg123501#msg123501 date=1291577840] [quote author=mechaiel link=topic=10098.msg123479#msg123479 date=1291558734] (2) The Feast …
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[quote author=josephgabriel link=topic=10103.msg123507#msg123507 date=1291578333] you say the 1st week response from kiahk 1 to the saturday right before the 2nd sunday. Yes, but I asked about the gap between the beginning of the month of Kiahk to t…
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[quote author=josephgabriel link=topic=10103.msg123500#msg123500 date=1291577763] [quote author=minagir link=topic=10103.msg123499#msg123499 date=1291577536] that is right.....the gospel response for the first week is supposed to be said from the 1s…
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[quote author=mechaiel link=topic=10098.msg123479#msg123479 date=1291558734] (2) The Feast of Epiphany (A) Vespers: Same order as Nativity except you say the Epiphany hymns and (Je ak-chi-oms) (B) Lakkan (Liturgy of the water) (C) Matins: Same…
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[quote author=ophadece link=topic=10103.msg123496#msg123496 date=1291575670] I don't think the number of the days matter. So even if Kiahk starts on a Monday you'd still say the first Sunday Gospel response for 13 days before switching. That's my un…
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[quote author=aem581 link=topic=10033.msg123474#msg123474 date=1291534100] I agree with jydeacon, cantors only teach the actual hymn. However, it would be better if these cantors started to include contemplations on the hymns, words, and tunes (some…
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[quote author=ilovesaintmark link=topic=10098.msg123467#msg123467 date=1291509948] Actually, I remembered as I was driving that about 15 years ago, I attended the Nativity at a parish, and they did the Vespers service, closed the curtain, and in min…
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btw, all what we are talking about is STILL in the 1st rank limits---epsaltoses, chanters. Ibrahim Ayad is not a "full deacon."
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[quote author=TITL link=topic=10096.msg123459#msg123459 date=1291502585] God should be making your days, not debate videos. [/quote] Well HE is always there....
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[quote author=Father Peter link=topic=10033.msg123461#msg123461 date=1291502917] I think it would be very beneficial if the ancient hierarchy of the diaconate and minor orders was properly reconstituted, and the canonical disciplines enforced. It wo…