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[quote author=Kirolies link=topic=9328.msg115208#msg115208 date=1275879139] [quote author=minagir link=topic=9328.msg115201#msg115201 date=1275872025] hmmm.....i don't understand. explain more about these you are asking for so we can identify them …
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the best copy is the Van Dyke translation that is published by the bible society of egypt: http://www.darelketab.org/bs2/en/default.aspx
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Guys.......i think we are all still confused....bear with me: This is not a source problem, weather through the Books or the Recordings...... the problem is what to say at this SPECIFIC TIME of Saturday night.
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hmmm.....i don't understand. explain more about these you are asking for so we can identify them right.
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[quote author=peterfarrington link=topic=9305.msg115181#msg115181 date=1275857054] The books you refer to, are they modern or ancient? If they are modern then it does not seem to me that they solve the problem you have described. What are the source…
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Fr. Peter, The main problem now is to match the rites that are written down in books with what we do. Meaning, for example, in the books is that on Watos days (Wed-Sat), "We worship ..." is said. Now we have to consider when we do Vespers Saturday …
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[quote author=Pi Onkh link=topic=9305.msg115170#msg115170 date=1275810592] From what i know and from the book put together by HH Sunday, monday and tuesday we say Amoini(o come). On all other days namely; wednesday, thursday friday and saturday we s…
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[quote author=PopeKyrillos link=topic=9323.msg115151#msg115151 date=1275759177] Alright, but did I use the bible improperly in my first post? What did I say that was incorrect or contradicting of the bible? PK [/quote] i didn't say you did.....i …
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[quote author=PopeKyrillos link=topic=9305.msg115150#msg115150 date=1275758974] Although you should say both the long intro and long verses for the feast together, that is not the case at all in many churches. I have heard many who just skip and go …
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Let's keep liturgical texts out of this post. most texts about jews in our church normally go back to the Bible because in this aspect we would be just proposing the words of God (the Bible) and not our own judgments....even though they might be tru…
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[quote author=PopeKyrillos link=topic=9305.msg115145#msg115145 date=1275758104] I would have to agree with Amoini being said on Saturday night. Otherwise, on vespers like the Eve of Palm Sunday, there would be a clear contradiction between saying te…
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Check out this search for "stiff-necked" in the Bible: http://www.biblestudytools.com/search/?q=stiff-necked#
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I think i wrote a long post about this once on coptichymns.net....but let me try to remember what i wrote there. I always thought of this write as a mix of the rite of the hymns (the text) and the tune that is said. meaning that you'd do the vespers…
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Beginning of the hour the priest says: [coptic]`P[oic nai nan, `P[oic nai nan,[/coptic] Lord have mercy. The prayer of the --- hour... Before the Gospel: [coptic]Doxa ci `o :eoc `ummon[/coptic] = Glory to You, O Lord the psalms are just the psalms…
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[quote author=aem581 link=topic=9319.msg115110#msg115110 date=1275713277] As impossible of a task that this will probably sound, is there any way to make these Alexandrian recordings public? Or are the Alexandrians just going to be too selfish and w…
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[quote author=aem581 link=topic=9319.msg115108#msg115108 date=1275712383] Yes, but now I'm eager to listen to the Alexandrian one and to learn it because I want to understand why only the known cantors of Alexandria recorded it. [/quote] there are M…
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[quote author=the_least link=topic=9322.msg115088#msg115088 date=1275688406] I think also, Wednesdays and Fridays falls under First Degree. Correct? [/quote] oh yes....that's what i forgot....and that is soo even if they are in other fasts of 2nd a…
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[quote author=ophadece link=topic=9305.msg115083#msg115083 date=1275686224] dear Mina, if that's the case then I don't find any objections to the Pope's proposition but the fact of the matter is that the suggestions made things more confusing to man…
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[quote author=abanoub2000 link=topic=9319.msg115081#msg115081 date=1275685162] What is an alexandrain tune? [/quote] just another way of the hymn that originated in Alex......not much people know it...but it is recorded by old cantors from there. I…
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Fady, I actually wanted tell you something about the General Funeral. the Synod will be clarifying this rite soon to be as this: If the rite is to begin after the liturgy is done (more specifically communion) than it is supposed to be the sad tune. …
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[quote author=Tewahedo link=topic=9322.msg115067#msg115067 date=1275665013] Why is fish allowed in Coptic religion during fasting season? Or is it allowed to eat fish during Fasting? [/quote] It is allowed in some fasts... There are three degrees …
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this was a mixed liturgy between Oriental Orthodox Churches with HGB Angelos. Other orthodox churchs do this "umbrella" tradition...but not our coptic church. do you have a video copy of this liturgy...i would love to watch it
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wagdi bishara recorded it. pm him.
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[quote author=aem581 link=topic=9316.msg115039#msg115039 date=1275620303] Oh, I see. Check your email ;-) [/quote] WOW....i only heard about this but never ever seen it......tanks so much...i LOVE IT!!!!!! the info in the beginning is great also.
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[quote author=aem581 link=topic=9316.msg115036#msg115036 date=1275619682] [quote author=minagir link=topic=9316.msg115035#msg115035 date=1275618231] sure....let's see it. and don't worry...i won't use it in any illegal way....am waiting for the Sout…
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[quote author=aem581 link=topic=9316.msg115034#msg115034 date=1275617584] [quote author=minagir link=topic=9316.msg115033#msg115033 date=1275617078] most of them yes....even though i disagree with calling the Psalies for the Resurrection "Pentecosta…
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[quote author=aem581 link=topic=9316.msg115031#msg115031 date=1275616545] [quote author=minagir link=topic=9316.msg115022#msg115022 date=1275611637] it's a coptic arabic book presented by Anba Mettaous and collected and edited by "Rabetit Moratelli …
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[quote author=Crazy4Christ1 link=topic=9313.msg115027#msg115027 date=1275614473] what i was taught is that the deacons enter the church with evologemenos and not epouro. if im wrong tell me :) [/quote] sorry. no. only ep-orro. maybe ekhrestos if i…
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[quote author=Tishori link=topic=9313.msg115019#msg115019 date=1275607990] Awesome dude, thank you so much God bless :) If anyone else has contemplations or spiritual articles on the rites of the day it would be great. Thanks guys :) [/quote] ther…
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[quote author=aem581 link=topic=9316.msg115020#msg115020 date=1275608029] [quote author=minagir link=topic=9316.msg115018#msg115018 date=1275606989] we try to put most of them online here on the text library and translate most of them. all (i think)…