[quote author=elsi70x7 link=topic=12927.msg152159#msg152159 date=1329527679]
What are we allowed to eat at Feast times that fall on Fasting times.
I was reading that fish is allowed on these occasions. Is it the same during Lent?
Yesterday was The F…
Oh..... protestants faith is also Christocentric. Many people who have faith in Christ as a 'personal God' are also Christocentric. we are Orthodox from a Coptic perspective and yes it is much effected by the culture--the 'flavor' as Fr Markos Ayoub…
[quote][quote]I mean how long can we keep this up for in the U.S.? 25 yrs? 50? 100? Eventually we won't be Egyptians. . .
oh.....don't worry. it doesn't matter we discuss here on the forum.....it will keep going.[/quote]
What will keep going?[/quote…
[quote author=Andrew link=topic=12897.msg152065#msg152065 date=1329434131]
Is the language the only thing connecting us? I think the Orthodox faith we share is far more important. As long as that connection remains, who cares if we both pray in Copt…
[quote author=Father Peter link=topic=12897.msg152055#msg152055 date=1329430531]
Why will the Church crumble if people worship in English? That doesn't make any sense.
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I didn't say that....i wasn't specifically speaking concerning the langu…
[quote author=Cyril97 link=topic=12914.msg152058#msg152058 date=1329430823]
....Everything thereafter is Lent, until Palm Sunday...and I think you got it from there...lol ;) :P
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until the last friday of lent rather than Palm sunday.
[quote author=Andrew link=topic=12914.msg152048#msg152048 date=1329428917]
So I'm a bit confused, do we treat it as if it were a regular weekend of the Great Lent (Je Peniot, Meghalo, etc.)?
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Sunday morning from Matins till the sermon (if yo…
[quote author=Andrew link=topic=12897.msg152046#msg152046 date=1329428644]
I think the important question that we have to ask ourselves is: Why do we feel the need to be connected to the church in Egypt? How long can we keep this connection? Will th…
[quote author=Amoussa01 link=topic=12914.msg152038#msg152038 date=1329415949]
Mina,
You said "you can say" psalm 150 and the conclusion. Are you implying that it is optional to choose between the Lent or Annual rite? Is that what the book specifica…
[quote author=Amoussa01 link=topic=12914.msg152016#msg152016 date=1329373060]
Mina,
can you provide a source?
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Anba Mettaous rite book.....and imikhail's word :-)
wait, i am sorry. i thought you are asking about THE MONDAY and not sunday. That Sunday liturgy has it's on reading, it the the Preparation Sunday. It also has a unique rite. it is annual until the Gospel. than from the gospel response and on is len…
[quote author=baladoos link=topic=12914.msg152002#msg152002 date=1329348395]
Hi Everyone,
Can you please tell me what are the rites for the sunday before the first day (monday) of Great Lent? Do we say anything from the Great Lent rites at all? pl…
[quote author=Andrew link=topic=12897.msg151929#msg151929 date=1329278881]
Do you think young people have the capability at such a young age to decide whether they are interested in the church? Do you think a language barrier does not decrease inter…
[quote author=splenior link=topic=12903.msg151837#msg151837 date=1329183553]
Four voices.. Jesus spoke as prophet, priest, king and judge. What is not orthodox about that?
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Christ has many title. He is also GOD the Son. What makes those 4 st…
[quote author=Andrew link=topic=12897.msg151817#msg151817 date=1329168057]
Mina, as you know, we need what is in the hymns to understand the Bible. Without the church explaining to us how we should interpret what the Bible says, we will all come up …
[quote author=Father Peter link=topic=12897.msg151813#msg151813 date=1329162975]
There is plenty of scope to argue for the use of some Coptic in some contexts, but I do find it problematic when the use of the local language, as has always been prope…
[quote author=lankyknight1990 link=topic=12899.msg151793#msg151793 date=1329101202]
Do ............ What we do then is up to us.
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EXACTLY!!!! what we do is up to us....it's our choices that we will be judged/condemned on.
the word used in the original coptic is: pathos.....a greek word that means passion/pain/suffering. the Church Fathers used this word to describe the consequence of the original sin--pain, suffering and corruption. In kiahk, in one of the parts of t…
[quote author=Andrew link=topic=12897.msg151773#msg151773 date=1329083777]
I'm not liking that people who don't want to spend time to learn Coptic or don't have the time are all being labeled "lazy." [/quote]
did i label people "lazy"? no....you mad…
[quote author=peter_saad link=topic=12899.msg151774#msg151774 date=1329084757]
[quote author=minatasgeel link=topic=12899.msg151748#msg151748 date=1329034739]
Peter, you said you are 27.....may I ask what country are you from...better would be what …
[quote author=henrik.hank link=topic=12902.msg151756#msg151756 date=1329051063]
[quote author=minatasgeel link=topic=12902.msg151721#msg151721 date=1329001288]
I think you are referring the entire Anaphora. Everything in our liturgy (almost everythi…
[quote author=user157 link=topic=12899.msg151747#msg151747 date=1329033595]
Do you really like the idea that all those people that do not go to church every week are headed to eternal damnation? when the main thing for a person is his relationship w…
[quote author=Andrew link=topic=12897.msg151726#msg151726 date=1329005458]
Yeah but saying them in a language you understand is a start. Not everyone can sit at home and study the hymns. Why require people to work twice? You're asking people to go a…
I am trying to dig into the first into the coptic but hard to find anything special with any rigorous study.....ya3ny he was the cause of salvation to the Nenivites.
I think you are referring the entire Anaphora. Everything in our liturgy (almost everything) is chanted. It is the ultimate way of prayer to God. Also, i think the structure of our liturgy as copts requires much participation from the people and dea…
[quote author=Andrew link=topic=12897.msg151711#msg151711 date=1328995479]
The hymns are meant to deliver the faith to us, to explain how the church interprets the Bible. If we aren't understanding the hymns, what's the point?
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There is some…
[quote author=henrik.hank link=topic=12902.msg151704#msg151704 date=1328988314]
Nofri!
In the Coptic Litrugy the Canon of the Mass (don't know what you call it) is sung. Why is is sung instead of said in a silent voice?
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Can you show us a vi…