Part 2
Let's really discuss what happens when people start to celebrate American New Year instead of Coptic New Year. Coptic New Year, involves a process of the WHOLE congregation singing hymns for the Trinity in one voice, Vespers, a procession of …
Sorry Andrew, I disagree. Practically speaking, 100 years ago Copts in Egypt used Coptic and 100 years from now they will likely use Coptic in Egypt still. The Moharraq monastery only prays the liturgy in Coptic for 1500+ years and will continue to …
Not really. The point is incorrect. A person who is still alive in a fleshly body SHOULD communicate with those who have left the fleshly body (assuming they are saints living in the resurrection) because those saints are living members of the livin…
Zoxsasi, I have to disagree with your last statement: "I think the disadvantages clearly outweigh the advantages". The only disadvantages of the new system you see relate to posting and editing. You do not see the hidden advantages of the new system…
Truthseeker,
I can understand why you might think I am distorting your comments. I understand your definition of living people is different than my definition. But if one limits the phrase "living people" to those who have not passed away, then how…
One more thing Truthseeker,
You said, "Intercession is meant to be done by living people on behalf of other living people." That is exactly why we ask for the saints intercessions. It is because they are alive in the Resurrection that intercessions …
I don't know Arabic sufficiently to give a proper translation but I will say the first verse seems biblical.
الابن
مولود من الأزلية:
ليس
لتقديم الإرادة ولد من الآب:
لكن
ولادة طبيعية:
والروح
القدس منبثق من الآبI think the verse means: "The So…
Part 24. In essence, there is no distinction between how the Orthodox understand the Holy Spirit (which you called the pipnevma camp) and the un-Orthodox understanding (which you called the oopnevma camp). In Coptic, the use of the indefinite articl…
I had a response written last week and my computer crashed in the middle. Sorry for not responding earlier. I have to break up my response into 2 parts. Here is part 1.
A few things I want to mention.1. I spoke about John 1:1c in this thread. Basica…
Truthseeker, it's good to hear from you again. I hope you will contribute more.
Why do you believe only one person can pray to St Mary and 99 will not be heard? You are applying the laws of physics on a metaphysical world. St Paul says our bodies wi…
I have most of these in a powerpoint but it's not ready for public domain. The tune of the psali depends on the psali. Adam Psalies are said like St Antony's madeha or Amen Alleluia (but faster) and the Batos psalies are said like the Burning Bush b…
Coptic Pharaoh,
First of all, we don't have to go run and burn anything. All we need to do is acknowledge the danger of Protestant work.
Second, in an ideal world, yes, we would avoid the New King James Bible because it is not based on the Septuagi…
Thank you childoforthodoxy.
Copticuser20, old liturgies amaze us all. But let's not forget there is a reason why we only have 3 liturgies in use. Not everything that is old or "on the other side of the green pasture" is suitable for the Coptic Chu…
Hi Albair. It is really nice to see you here. I hope you can contribute more in the future.
I think you made it quite clear that the intention of your talk was directed to a certain group of people to address a specific problem. Of course, anyone c…
Copticstrength,
I hope you are now comforted with the thread. I'm glad you created this thread. I just wanted to add a few comments.
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I just want all the egyptians to…
Great, now all we need to do is put a black galabiya on you and then it will be an even bigger blessing.
Congratulations to all you people up North.
Mare Vnou] jwk `mpef`mcou `e]kanada qen piabyt `nte piagioc Antionioc viwt `nnimona,oc nem nieu,…
First of all, your Sundry Questions thread last year was beneficial. I actually learned a lot researching for answers to your questions. Don't think it didn't go over well. It went exactly how God wanted it to go. (I think)
Secondly, I'm glad you'r…
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Here, for the first time we disagree. I agree that the Eastern Orthodox of today are fully Orthodox because of the corrections made at II & III Constantinople,…
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1) Good, you cannot say who goes to heaven and who goes to hell. Someone send the Memo to HEM Bishoy. No one is saying Protestantism is to be tolerated. But we are s…
I would like to add to RO's comments. This particular blog is a rollercoaster of polemic attacks starting with a question about praying for Pope Shenouda in an EO service (when he passed away in 2012) to 4th century saints to anti-Roman Catholic arg…
Yes it was a compliment. St John Cassian, as well as every patristic Orthodox father before Chalcedon, had no reason to explicitly explain a Christological formula except when a heresy challenged accepted Orthodox theology. I don't find it unusual t…
Aelywn,
Welcome to the forums. If you did not tell us you were an Eastern Orthodox catechumen, I would have thought you were Oriental Orthodox. I will respond with a few points.
Taken as a whole, your entire analysis is Oriental Orthodoxy. I woul…
Bilingualism has occurred in Egypt before Alexander the Great was victorious over the Ptolymies. There is papyrological evidence that thousands of years before there was a Greece, a community called Hellenomemphites (literally "Greeks in Memphis") l…
Theoretically, if it is in Albair's book or Nahdet alkanays books, then it was approved by the Synod committee. But Tartib adds a lot of additions. When I saw Ibrahim Ayad sing it in vespers of St John the Baptist, I wondered if people had picked up…
A little off topic but I'm curious,
How many people or churches are actually using the verses (whether doxologies, aspasmoses and canons) found in Tartib al bay3a?
I know Ibrahim Ayad and the chorus used it some of the Wednesday vespers for Pope …